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[Climate financial risk: portfolios and stress tests](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCm2qAdrae0) ## Transcrições ### Addressing Behavioural Biases in Investing: Prof Nicholas Barberis | London Business School URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO6A9q4OoNI Idioma: en good morning everyone and thank you for that very kind introduction I'm very happy to be here for this very interesting day on behavioral finance I'm going to talk a little bit about the topic not for very long I want to leave lots of time for any questions or comments or reactions that you might have I apologize I'm sitting on this stool I have a sort of minor leg injury so just a little bit of background first I think sort of many of you know that the modern research era in finance started in the 1950s and from the 1950s to the 1990s research was really dominated by a single paradigm known as the rational agent framework and it was cool that for good reason because it basically assumes that everyone out there is fully rational and it's a useful and important framework but it's become pretty clear over time that a lot of important things in financial markets don't fit very easily into this framework so perhaps not surprisingly starting in the 1990s a second framework emerged the behavioral finance framework and it argues that some financial phenomena at least are the result of less than fully rational thinking on the part of some market pot participants and it advocates the use of models that are psychologically more realistic there's just a sense that the frameworks we've been using for decades to think about financial markets just aren't psychologically realistic enough to capture a lot of what goes on in the world we need more psychologically realistic frameworks and so when I started working in this area more than 20 years ago it really wasn't clear how it was gonna go how it was going to do but now I feel confident saying to you that at least on some dimensions behavioral finance has been successful it explains many observed facts in simple intuitive ways it makes testable predictions at least some of which have been confirmed in the data and there's strong interest not just among academics but among practitioners and policymakers too academic papers in behavioral finance have been heavily cited and it's received its share of awards as well not least the Nobel Prizes to people like Daniel Kahneman Robert Shiller and Richard Thaler that said it still has some way to go for example one goal you might have is that all finance researchers be familiar with the core ideas in behavioral finance and apply them as appropriate and we're not there yet so I think people who work in the field like me one task we have is to communicate our ideas more broadly and so I thought it might be helpful if today I try to do just that in just a short amount of time so I thought specifically what I could do is try to pick out 3 ideas from behavioral finance that I think are particularly helpful for thinking about financial markets and the three that I've picked out are over extrapolation of the past over confidence and while I'm calling gain loss utility coupled with elements from prospect theory I'm going to try to show you today that these ideas can explain many central facts about asset prices and after I've done that I'll just end with some broad remarks about progress in the field all right so let's dive into the first idea over extrapolation it's just the idea that when people form beliefs about the future they put too much weight on the recent past and today I'm gonna focus specifically on the idea that people extrapolate past returns at some level in a very basic idea it's just the idea that if the recent returns on an asset or asset class have been good people are too quick to think that the future returns will also be good if the recent returns on an asset or asset class have been poor people are too quick to think that the future returns will also be poor and this is an old idea you can find it in qualitative accounts of financial markets going back decades the first wave of formal academic research on the topic came along in the 1990s and in just the past five years or so there's been a second wave of research on this topic spurred I think in part by renewed attention to an interesting kind of data specifically survey data so there's a lot of surveys that are conducted of investors both individual investors and institutional investors that simply ask people for their forecasts of future stock market returns how do you think the stock market's going to do over the next year and these data provides support for the notion of over extrapolation of past returns so let me take that in two steps first of all the data point to extrapolation of past returns if the recent returns on the stock market have been good people think that the future returns will be good if they've recently been bad people think that the future returns will be bad and you can see this in this graph here from one study of this topic this is actually Gallup survey data as I remember the graph runs from 1996 through 2012 the red line is in each quarter we're asking people to forecast the stock market return over the next year and the blue line is at that very moment of time how did the stock market how had the stock market performed over the previous year and you can see a close correlation between the two lines which simply says if the stock market had recently performed well people thought that it would keep doing well if it has recently performed poorly people thought that it would keep doing poorly so people are extrapolating past returns but also the author's show they seem to be over extrapolating past returns in a sense of their beliefs are incorrect what I mean there is if you look at the correlation between people's forecasted return and what subsequent realized returns actually are you'll see something of a negative correlation where people expect higher returns the subsequent return is actually lower than average when people expect low returns the subsequent return is actually higher than average so these data I think have helped to spur this new wave of research on return over extrapolation and what we found in just the past sort of 5-10 years or so is the models in which some investors over extrapolate past returns can explain several of the most important facts about asset prices for example momentum and reversals and individual assets time-series predictability in aggregate asset classes and financial bubbles and if you look at that list that's a large chunk of what we're trying to understand about asset prices so it's striking to me the a single simple idea can shed light on all of them and before I explain the intuition for how this works I thought I'd just briefly remind you of what these facts say although I suspect that some of you are well aware of them so first of all momentum and reversals so in the cross-section of stocks but also in other asset classes is what's called medium term momentum for example stocks with high past six-month returns have higher subsequent returns on average than stocks with low past six-month returns so to make that a little bit clearer imagine the at some point of time you take your database of stocks and you rank all the stocks based on how they've performed over the past six months so some stocks have performed very well some stocks have performed very poorly it's interesting to see how do these two groups of stocks do subsequently and what's been found over decades of data in the United States but also most international markets is that these prior winners subsequently have a high average return while the prior losers subsequently have a low average return but we also observe what's called long term reversals for example stocks with high past three year it turns have lower subsequent returns on average than stocks with low past three-year terms so to be clear if we now take our database of stocks and we rank stocks based on how they've performed over the previous three years so you've got some big winners and some big losers it's interesting to see how do these two groups of stocks perform in the future and what's been found over decades of us data but most international markets - is that these big prior winners subsequently have a low average return while the big prior losers subsequently have a higher average return and a long-standing challenge I think for finance researchers is to explain both of these patterns in a parsimonious one second fact while I'm calling time-series predictability this is in aggregate asset classes so in aggregate asset classes raise of price to fundamentals predict subsequent returns with a negative sign for example in the stock market the price to earnings ratio of the stock market predicts the market subsequent return with a negative sign and you can see that in this picture from a study by Campbell and Shiller so every number in this picture is a year over the past century the horizontal axis is the price to earnings ratio of the market in that year the vertical axis is over the next ten years the performance of the stock market specifically the ten-year price growth and you can see you can run a regression of course but even visually you can see something of a negative relationship whereby years with high p/e ratios are followed by lower returns while years with low p/e ratios are followed by higher returns so the stock market is not a random walk its future return can be predicted at least a little bit in advance using ratios like this and many economists feel like this may be the single most important fact about stock market fluctuations that we want to try to understand and finally bubbles I hardly need to explain what these are but basically episodes where the price of an asset rises dramatically and then collapses and during the price rises a lot of talk of possible overvaluation as well as - and so coming back to our earlier theme what we found in the past five or 10 years is the a framework or an economy where some investors over extrapolate past returns can shed light on all of these basic facts about asset prices and I wanted to explain how that works with the help of this picture right here so what this picture plots if you look at the blue line what the blue line is plotting is the price path of an asset in an economy where some people extrapolate past returns following a good news about fundamentals here at time - so again the price path is this blue line sorry is the price path of an asset in an economy where some people extrapolate past returns following good news at - and the red line shows you what happens if there are no extrapolate us but rather all investors are fully rational so why does the price path look like this so it works as follows following the good news at time - the price of the asset naturally goes up what happens next well here the return extrapolate errs look back they see hi past returns which makes them think that the future return will be good as well so they by aggressively pushing the price even further on what happens next well here the return extrapolate errs look back they see two periods of high returns that gets them even more excited about the future so they buy even more aggressively pushing the price even further but around here they look back and they see that the recent returns while positive haven't been quite as amazing as before so while remaining excited they get a little bit less so and the price comes down a little bit and here they look back and they see a negative return so they become a lot less excited and the price collapses further and so in that picture you can see all of those basic asset pricing facts we were trying to explain first of all you can see the medium-term momentum notice how the high past return is followed by more good returns at least in the short run and the intuition is if an asset has a good past return that gets extrapolate is excited about its future return which leads them to buy it pushing it further up at least in the short term but you can also see the long-run reversal so notice how the good long-term past return is followed by lower returns going forward if an asset has had a long-term good past return that's a sign that extrapolate errs have become very excited about it later on they become a little bit less excited and returns are poor you can see the time series predictability - it's around here that the price to earnings ratio of the asset is particularly high and you can see that just as in the data that's followed by lower returns again if an asset has a high price to earnings ratio that's a sign that extrapolate errs have become very exciting about it later their excitement abates and the returns are low and finally if the cash flow news here at time two is particularly good you're going to get an amplified version of this blue price path that's going to begin to look something like a bubble a big rise in price followed by a collapse and that leads to one of the main behavioral finance theories of bubbles which is that bubbles are triggered by good fundamental news good news about the assets fundamentals that push up the price of the asset which then gets extrapolate as excited who then buy the asset aggressively pushing it further up at least in the short term so it's striking to me that this simple assumption about return extrapolation can explain a lot of these basic facts about asset prices now if you have a good theory it should be helpful for investment purposes and I think that's the case for return extrapolation as well so let me explain what I mean return extrapolation again is the idea that people use past returns as a basis for their forecasts of future returns but the interesting thing is that the past returns they look at or which past returns they look at seems to vary over time sometimes they're focused just on the past few months of returns sometimes they seem to look at the past few years of returns and you can see that in this picture here which goes from 1992 through to 2012 the Green Line is the S&P 500 during that time and the blue line shows you which returns investors seem to be looking at when forming forecasts about the future as judged by the survey evidence so when this blue line is high that means that people are focusing on just the past few months of returns when this blue line is low that means they're actually looking at the past few years of returns so you can see for example that in the late 1990s people were increasingly looking at just recent returns so that's interesting in and of itself but it's also useful for investment purposes and there's an interesting recent paper by Casella and Golan that sort of makes this point specifically what they show is in the if investors have currently have been waiting recent returns heavily as judged by the surveys this signals a market inflection point specifically if the stock market is overvalued and recent returns are being heavily weighted by investors then a short-term correction is more likely so this helps to answer a long-standing question that practitioners that I think are particularly interested in their Laughton ask look if the price to earnings ratio of an asset is high that suggests that it might be overvalued and due for a correction but when will the correction occur what this study shows is that survey data helps to provide an answer if the price to earnings ratio is high and investors seem to be very heavily focused on just recent returns then a correction is more likely in the short term and there's good intuition for that which is suppose investors are very focused on just short-term past returns and then they're supposed that there's just a one piece of bad news that brings the market down a little bit then precisely because people are focused on the very recent past that could trigger a large change in market sentiment and hence a large collapse in the price of the asset so this idea of return extrapolation not just helpful for understanding basic facts but potentially also for investment purposes so that was the first idea I wanted to discuss with you the second idea I've decided to talk about is overconfidence now overconfidence is a broad term and I wanted to distinguish two kinds of overconfidence so there's one kind called over placement and this refers to the idea that people seem to have overly rosy views of their abilities relative to other people and it's the kind of thing that's most easily established in surveys where these sort of 80% of people declare themselves to be above the median on various dimensions like attractiveness sense of humor driving ability ability to get along with people at least 80% think they're above the median obvious that's not possible many people must be deluding themselves that's one kind of overconfidence another kind is over precision this refers to the fact that people seem to be too confident in the accuracy of their beliefs this is usually established by asking people for confidence intervals so I could ask you a question like how many petrol stations are there in some region but ask you not just for an estimate but also your 90% confidence interval so your estimate might be 200 petrol stations but your 90% confidence interval ranges from a hundred to three hundred in the sense that you're 90% sure that the right answer falls into that interval so then I can ask you many such questions and then I can see how often does the right answer fall into the intervals you gave if you're correctly calibrated the right answer should fall into the intervals around 90% of the time but what dozens of studies have found going back decades is that the right answer falls into the intervals only around 50% of the time so people are giving in to those that are too narrow which in turns suggests that they are too confident about the precision of their estimate so this idea of overconfidence has several applications in finance but perhaps the principal motivation for invoking it in the financial context is to understand the very high trading volume we've observed in financial markets for decades non-speculative motives for trading like liquidity needs or rebalancing are unlikely to explain that much of all this trading volume instead it seems that most trading is likely speculative in other words based on people's differing beliefs about future price changes and the key point is this and this was only really figured out in the 1980s is that it's hard to generate a large amount of speculative trading in an economy where everyone is fully rational and I've written here that's because each investor infers are those information from prices or from them Miyo willingness to trade which reduces your own willingness to trade so just to be clear about that to really boil it down if I go to buy a stock and then you are willing to sell to me well if I'm fully irrational and then gonna say wait why are you willing to sell to me perhaps you know something bad about the future prospects of this company in which case you know what I think I'd rather not buy after all now that might sound extreme to you but that is how a fully rational person will think and so when we write down models of fully rational investors we find that they don't predict a lot of volume for this reason nothing like the amount of volume you observe in the real world and I guess the point is the overconfidence is a nice way of breaking this logjam so let me repeat the story with some overconfidence thrown in so I go to buy a stock you're willing to sell to me so then I say to myself okay why are you willing to sell to me oh okay you think you know something bad about the future prospects of the company but then I say I don't care what you think because I think I'm much better than you at analyzing stocks and you feel exactly the same about me and so we're both very happy to trade with one another we both think we're on the winning side of the trade obviously we can't both be but because of overconfidence we think we are and therefore we're happy to trade and what's nice is in the past few years we've seen some direct evidence that overconfidence really plays a role in trading so to test this hypothesis I think one natural prediction is more overconfident or more overconfident people are going to trade more because they're so sure they know what they're doing and there's some nice studies that have tested that prediction one of the most compelling to me is by Greenblatt and Keller hajdu they use data from Finland a number of these studies use data from Sweden or Finland these countries keep close detailed records of what their citizens do so it's a good place to run these studies the challenge of course is to figure out who in Finland is more overconfident and so the way the authors did it is it turns out that at the age of 18 or 19 every Finnish man has to go into the military for compulsory army service and when you do that you take a bunch of tests some psychological tests and some aptitude test tests of math and verbal ability one of the psychological tests is a self-reported measure of confidence how confident a person are you on a scale from one to ten and so the measure of overconfidence in this study is your self-reported confidence - how confident you should be based on your performance in the aptitude tests so it's a bit cruel but it's good in terms of a measure of overconfidence and what the author's showed it's a remarkable finding is that that measure of overconfidence measured at the age of 18 or 19 predicts the frequency with which people trade stocks several years later when they finally open a brokerage account of their own so to me that's nice evidence of a direct link between overconfidence and trading and more broadly notice how even to understand something as basic as trading volume we may need to appeal to ideas from behavioral finance like overconfidence and so the last idea I wanted to discuss with you is gain loss utility with prospect theory so up until now I focused more on people's beliefs I'm now going to turn to what economists often refer to as people's preferences in other words given people's beliefs about the potential future outcomes of the investment decision how do they evaluate these outcomes and many psychologists feel a theory called prospect theory by Daniel Kahneman Amos Tversky might be the best available answer to this question and prospect theory has a number of elements I'll just mention three of them so the most basic is reference dependence which just means that when people are evaluating a risky bet a risky gamble a risky opportunity they think in terms of potential gains and losses in other words they're very focused on what could I gain what could I lose but it's not just that they focus on gains and losses they're also much more sensitive to losses and that's the concept of loss aversion but also today I wanted to emphasize another element probability weighting which says that people process probabilities in a nonlinear way in particular over weighting low probability outcomes and you can see that in this picture so on the horizontal axis here is the probability of some outcome and on the vertical axis is how much weight the brain puts on that outcome when making a decision I've inserted the green dashed line the 45-degree line that's what traditional models assume they assume that if something is gonna happen with probability 0.3 the decision-maker puts weight of 0.3 on it we're making the decision if something's gonna happen with probability 0.7 the decision-maker puts away 2.7 on it when making a decision but continent first key from their experiments found that the brain actually use nonlinear weights captured by this blue line that in particular overweight low probability outcomes and there's a lot of evidence for that one basic motivation is the fact that many human beings like both lottery tickets and insurance policies a combination of behaviors that isn't easy to understand under the traditional economic framework but probability weighting captures it by saying that when you're thinking about a lottery ticket the brain is over weighting the states in which the unlikely event in which you win the lottery and therefore you find the lottery ticket appealing and when you're thinking about an insurance policy the brain is over waiting the unlikely event of a financial disaster and that makes you lean towards the insurance policy and while loss aversion is the best-known element of prospect theory probability weighting may have just as many applications in finance it makes the following very basic prediction which is the the skewness of an assets returns will be priced even the idiosyncratic skewness a prediction not made by the traditional models more specifically positively skewed assets will be overpriced and earn low average returns negatively skewed assets will be under priced and earned high average returns and let me before turning to applications just make sure the intuition is clear so a positively skewed asset is one that offers you a small chance of a really good outcome so it's return distribution will look like the picture at the top here the long right tail indicating the positive skewness I'm saying that under probability weighting assets like that will be overpriced and have a low average return the reason is that when you're thinking about such an asset the brain will be over waiting these very appealing right tail events so you find that distribution very attractive you're willing to pay a lot for the asset and earn a low average return a negatively skewed asset exposes you to the small chance of a very bad outcome so that would have a return distribution like the one at the bottom where the long left tail is indicating the negative skewness and I'm saying that under probability weighting such assets will be under priced and have high average returns why because when you're thinking about such an asset the brain is over waiting these nasty left tail outcomes so you find this asset very aversive you pay only a low price for it and demand a high average return and these very simple predictions can be helpful for understanding a range of facts specifically about average returns so some average returns are puzzling lehigh some are puzzling Leeloo for example the return on the overall stock market is puzzling lehigh over the past two centuries the US stock market has outperformed Treasury bills by an enormous margin of course we expect it to outperform because it's riskier but it's hard to understand the sheer magnitude of the outperformance and the same conclusion is reached even if you look at the average stock market around the world meanwhile other average returns are puzzling Leeloo for example the long-term average return on IPO stocks is surprisingly low you can see that in this classic picture from a study by Loren and Ritter the columns in the front row show you the average returns of IPO stocks in the five years after the IPO the columns in the back row show you the average returns of a control group of stocks stocks that are similar to the IPO stocks in terms of market capitalization but happened to do their IPO much further back in time and you can see much lower average returns for the IPO stocks and I just want to say the probability weighting offers a simple way of understanding both of these facts the reason is that the overall stock market is negatively skewed it's subject to occasional large crashes so then probability weighting says indeed such an asset should have a high average return the intuition is that when people are thinking about the overall stock market the brain is over weighting the nasty left tail outcome the possibility of a large crash so you find this asset aversive and you demand a high average return on it by comparison IPO stocks have very positively skewed returns most of them don't really go anywhere but a small handful like Google or Microsoft have incredibly good performance after the IPO so then probability weighting would say that such an asset should have a low average return and the intuition is that when you're thinking about an IPO stock the brain is over weighting the right tail outcome where this stock turns out to be the next Google so that makes you excited you're willing to pay a high price for the IPO stock and to accept a low average rate return on it and this idea that positively skewed assets should have low average returns it has many other applications for example if you look at distress stocks or bankrupt stocks or stocks traded off the main exchanges out of the money options on individual stocks or stocks with high idiosyncratic volatility they all have low average returns why is that well we're not completely sure but one idea is that they have that it's due to their positive skewness all of these assets have very positively skewed returns so perhaps they have low average returns because they're positively skewed so today in an effort to be helpful I tried to pick out three ideas from behavioral finance that I think are particularly useful for thinking about financial markets and the three I picked out are over extrapolation of past which overconfidence and gain/loss utility coupled with prospect theory you now try to show you that these three ideas can explain many central facts about markets average returns time series predictability momentum and reversals bubbles and trading volume and they do so I think in simple intuitive ways and notice also that behavioral finance it isn't about little quirky things it's really trying to get at basic facts about financial markets back in the 1990s when behavioral finance was getting going there was a worry about lack of discipline in the field so there was a worry that what behavioral finance people did is whenever there was any puzzle in financial markets they would sort of flip through the psychology book until they found some kind of bias that would seem to explain the puzzle they were trying to explain and then they would declare victory and go home and there is a real danger here because there are dozens of ways in which people are irrational and so people were worried that we were going to see a profusion of psychological biases like 30 different biases to explain 30 different facts and what's striking to me is that that concern has proven unfounded in the 1990s the center of gravity in behavioral finance was in three ideas over extrapolation overconfidence and prospect theory and as I've been telling you today today the field center of gravity remains in these three concepts I'm not sure why that is it's possible that we were scared by the lack of discipline critique and therefore we stayed close to a few central ideas or perhaps these are the ideas that are most relevant to financial markets and we figured that out early on and I think that extrapolation and prospect view in particular might be promising building blocks for an eventual sort of unified theory by unified theory I mean a model that makes parsimonious psychologically grounded assumptions about both beliefs and preferences and explains a large range of facts and so the way this would work is people would use the past particularly the recent past to make forecasts about future potential gains and losses and they would evaluate those in the way described by prospect theory with more sensitivity to losses than to gains and with over weighting low probability extreme outcomes so back in the 1990s conferences often staged debates between the rational camp and the behavioral camp these debates were fun but I'm not sure that they really advanced the cause of science instead if behavioral finance has made progress I think that has happened because the researchers came home and they just started writing down models of how they thought the world worked making predictions using those models and then testing those predictions in the data in other words I think behavioral finance has just made progress by acting like a normal science and I think that efforts going to continue in the next few years with I hope continued success so I'm just gonna stop there and leave I think we have at least ten minutes remaining for any questions or reactions or comments that you might have I did just want to mention that if you are interested in digging more deeply into any of the ideas I talked about this morning or you're curious about some other ideas in behavioral finance that I haven't had time to cover I've recently completed a comprehensive survey of behavioral finance approaches to understanding asset prices it's called psychology based models of asset prices and trading volume it's available on my website and I think also on the conference website so let me stop there and take any questions or comments you might have thank you [Applause] Nick I'm casinos online Roy from State Street and I'd like to compliment you as an exact Demick you're the best behavioral finance person of our generation for a masterful talk but thank you so much being a surprise so now I have two questions the first one is as a practitioner something that you can contribute a lot to particularly the NBR behavioral finance there's a big huge gap between what you talked about what we as a surprising people see people like Schiller and Andy Lowe etc talk about on behavioral finance from an academic viewpoint but I sit in the industry and I see clients across 70 countries and it's a fad to mention behavioral finance when people can't even figure out lots of times you know volatility ratios the kind of things that can be low McKinley etcetera talk so how do you square the circle between the so-called experts and the really people trying to understand in research what the way markets operate versus the practitioners who just want to gloss over the things and my second one is a bit more technical a lot of what you've said could be couched in the sense of zelner and Lars Hanson etc in Bayesian models where you could take your priors and then peak them in ranges of crowds with a likelihood function and then arrive at estimates of overconfidence etc so the second one is I'd like your reaction on the second one but the first one I feel is a danger where you can contribute a lot well thank you very much for these questions on the second point of yes I mean I think this is a useful reminder that while I think behavioral finance has useful frameworks to offer there are obviously complete frameworks not just on the behavioral side but on the rational side as well and I cannot claim that we've completely ruled out the rational models not at all but the reason I felt comfortable discussing these frameworks with you is that behavioral frameworks have been tested it's their predictions have been tested and it's been support so I think they capture some of what's going on but you're right there is a class of rational learning models that might be able to address some of this evidence and absolutely one of the things we fight about in academic conferences is okay which model seems to be supported by the evidence and so on but there's no it's not like one model has one out there are many competing frameworks that we need to stay on top of on your first question well I very much understand that there might be a gap and that's why I'm very grateful to have an opportunity like this where I could bring some of the latest ideas to a practitioner audience for you to think about and thereby create a little bit of a bridge if there are particular topics that practitioners care a lot about I'm interested in hearing about that because those might be good research questions for us but overall I think I'd like to say that one thing that one thing I'm proud of I think about behavioral finance is it is an area of finance that I think has resonated with practitioners including sophisticated practitioners and I take that as a sign that we might be on to something we might be doing something along the right lines so I agree with you there's need for more communication but I also think that this might be the branch of finance that might be most relevant and useful to you Nick two questions you mentioned sort of the periodicity of under-reaction and overreaction sort of the six to twelve month window being that intermediate term and the de bon Taylor 3-year window in the longer term there's also this very short term one month overreaction stuff so question one is how does that if at all relate to intermediate term or longer term overreaction and in that within that second window then the periodicity you focused a lot in extrapolation rather than under-reaction those two coexist as drivers for this six to 12-month phenomenon or are you much more of an extrapolation guy versus a reaction guy yes thank you so let's see on short-term reversals I didn't talk about that it's certainly a powerful phenomenon has been over the decades honestly I don't think behavioral finance has had anything really good to say about them I mean there was a natural hypothesis that perhaps short-term reversals are about overreaction to a piece of news that then sort of rapidly corrected but honestly there's not a lot of evidence to support that view instead people go more for sort of a liquidity story where you know if someone has to sell a large amount of an asset they often have to give a price discount because other people I haven't yet had time to analyze the asset in questions of the price discount which is then reversed so honestly I don't think behavioral finance as yet has had great things to say about short-term reversals you're absolutely right to bring up under reaction if I was doing a longer talk I would mention that as another topic it might be if I had to pick four things it might be the fourth thing so today I talked about momentum as a sort of overreaction phenomenon involving extrapolation but certainly an important alternative hypothesis is that it reflects under-reaction there's a piece of news a good news people don't react enough to it so there's a positive price move but because of the insufficient reaction there's another positive price move later and there's certainly evidence to support that as well there can be both going on the reason I picked on the ideas I did extrapolation overconfidence is I think the most important facts in financial markets do have to do with sort of extreme movements with prices getting too high with them getting too low that can have some of the bigger effects on the real economy and things like extrapolation and overconfidence have been implicated in those so that's why I focused more on those but I very much agree that if I did a fourth thing it would be something related to under reaction hi Nick my name is Aditya I'm pursuing the masters in financial analysis at London Business School my question to you is does behavioral finance reinforce the idea that technical analysis actually works in the financial markets because technical analysis also in a way tries to predict the future price based on past data and charting involves in a way gorging fear and greed human emotions that go into it and if we am algorithm runs technical analysis and behavioral finance you think it will better help a person to predict the future yeah so I think that behavioral finance does to some extent provide a foundation for some of the strategies used in technical analysis because some of the behavioral theories say their past patterns in both prices and volume will have some predictive power for future returns so in that sense I do think it can provide a foundation for some technical analysis trading strategies but technical analysis can get really quite sophisticated and it can involve very complex patterns in the data I can't say that behavioral finance has provided a foundation for those it probably provides a foundation for some simple strategies based on simple patterns in past prices and volume but hasn't provided a foundation for some of the more intricate patterns there may be such a foundation but behavioral finance hasn't provided as yet oh hi will mode and lbs alone thank you very much as the presentation so my question is where do you see that end point for behavioral finance do you see an end point where if all institutional investors were educates enough you could have rational market sorry rational market and then I guess this is a difficult question to answer but is it in an institution like a QRS interest to be educating people about behavioral finance given that that such a huge amount of alpha from investment comes from well I'll stay away from the second question because I I don't feel I'm in a position to speak for four AQR I think there may be some AQR representatives here they can tackle that question or on your first one of where behavioral finance goes I mean there is a somewhat depressed call it depressing scenario for those who work in behavioral finance which is if all of this becomes very well known very well accepted if everyone learns all about the buyer season learns to sort of neutralize them in their own thinking then perhaps you could say that we would end up with more rational markets and then the efficient markets framework would describe the world after all so you could say that if behavioral finance is successful it will almost sort of defeat itself in some way I will just bring the world back to rational markets but my own view is that that's not likely to happen I think that a lot of these biases are very deeply rooted in the human brain I think they probably developed during the human evolutionary period they're very deep deeply rooted they're very hard 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